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Post Number:#1  PostPosted: 03 Apr 2011 17:20 
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I`ve got married to UK citizen in Russia on Sakhalin then i had to change and do translation all documents. First to apply for zagran passport took long time, i was trying to apply many times ( because i was sent on wild goose chase around all the offices by the officials trying to find the right one). I wanted to have RIGHT spelling of my husband surname but automatic translation was telling them it was spelled differently and the officials refused to believe my husband`s passport was correct. Finally thanks to my friend who is working in Immigration department i got successful result but it took many months!
Then i used EU Directive 2004/38/EC (thanks rosbionik, shadow, markje and wiz!) to apply for shengen visa. And soon resident permit and here i am in Holland.


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Post Number:#2  PostPosted: 03 Apr 2011 17:24 
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Good luck living in Holland :-)

My wife finds it very difficult, because the language is "idiot!"

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I`ve got married to UK citizen in Russia on Sakhalin then i had to change and do translation all documents. First to apply for zagran passport took long time, i was trying to apply many times ( because i was sent on wild goose chase around all the offices by the officials trying to find the right one). I wanted to have RIGHT spelling of my husband surname but automatic translation was telling them it was spelled differently and the officials refused to believe my husband`s passport was correct. Finally thanks to my friend who is working in Immigration department i got successful result but it took many months!
Then i used EU Directive 2004/38/EC (thanks rosbionik, shadow, markje and wiz!) to apply for shengen visa. And soon resident permit and here i am in Holland.

Hello olpo23 and welcome to the board! [hi.gif]

I’m glad to see you here ( « В нашем полку прибыло»- Ураааа!). [hurrah.gif]

I hope you will enjoy to be here and share your story. [drink-coffee.gif]

Sorry to hear all your troubles with your passport and thanks to your friend who helped you out , although it took few months.

Two years ago I was on a similar situation but it was my luck and the lady who was working at the passport department was reasonable and understanding. When I told her the correct spelling of my husband’s surname she explain to me why the spelling is wrong
(because of the French spelling machine). Then she ask me to write an application with my explanation why I wanted to have the right spelling of my future surname.

Yes, the boys here are very helpful and I know they will help everybody. [clap.gif]

I wish you good luck and happines in your married life!

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Post Number:#4  PostPosted: 11 Apr 2011 19:15 
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Arriving in Schipol.


When i landed in the Netherlands i went to passport control where i showed my passport with visa. I had 3 month Schengen visa. I was asked there who i was visiting and i answered my husband. The immigration officer asked his nationality and to see my return ticket. I showed him but as the date of return (i am not intending to go back soon as am seeking residence as mentioned in post 1) was later than my visa expiration date they asked me to go to different area. First the officer asked my husband`s telephone number to call him. Then he asked what im going to do here, what kind of job i had in russia (he did not know what HSE was!). He started shouting and demanded to see my certificate of marriage and wanted all the details regarding this, proof of my education as well, fortunately i had all the documents with me, translated and apostilled into english. He left me waiting and i felt myself terrible and almost crying. Then he and my husband came back to me and i was allowed to go and collect my baggage and enter Holland.

My first impression of Holland was not that great!


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Post Number:#5  PostPosted: 11 Apr 2011 19:25 
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I was waiting for Olpo to arrive with a big bunch of odd numbered tulips, chocolate, perfume etc when I recieved a call from a withheld number asking me what the name of my wife was, where I was and what was I doing in Holland. I then had to wait 10 mins next to the information desk for an immigration officer to escort me through customs to see my wife looking angry as only a russian woman can! After a few questions, mainly to confirm that my answers were the same as hers, they took a scan of my ID and let the two of us go and get olpos baggage and legally enter the country!


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Olpo

you always will come across certain difficult officials who it is important to show authority and their "Jobs worth", as we say...... so do not get easily put off.

Of course not every immigration official behaves the same way.

My wife has a Resident card in the UK and we can travel everywhere in the EU without any Visa, but normally we will come across some female officer who doesn't know the Rules and will delay us, especially on the returning trip from the country we just visited.

I suggest in these circumstances, keep calm and deal with them by answering all their boring questions honestly.

Good luck with your application for a Resident Card!

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Post Number:#7  PostPosted: 12 Apr 2011 06:25 
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Because I have an inside track into the Schiphol story I would like to add that while both olpo and jg stated that they were questioned, they were actually interrogated (in quite a rude manner).

I am making this post not as a put down of the Dutch Immigration in Schiphol Airport but as a warning to anybody else (in the future) that reads this post and plans to use the same route as olpo and jg used.

After all forewarned is forearmed.

To read the thread about the route that olpo and jg used follow This Image be sure read the whole thread that opens up when clicking the link.

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Post Number:#8  PostPosted: 13 Apr 2011 19:01 
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thank you for wishing success with getting a recidence, i would love have it without any troubles. We will see what can happen.)


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Post Number:#9  PostPosted: 13 Apr 2011 21:49 
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olpo23 wrote:
Arriving in Schipol.


When i landed in the Netherlands i went to passport control where i showed my passport with visa. I had 3 month Schengen visa. I was asked there who i was visiting and i answered my husband. The immigration officer asked his nationality and to see my return ticket. I showed him but as the date of return (i am not intending to go back soon as am seeking residence as mentioned in post 1) was later than my visa expiration date they asked me to go to different area. First the officer asked my husband`s telephone number to call him. Then he asked what im going to do here, what kind of job i had in russia (he did not know what HSE was!). He started shouting and demanded to see my certificate of marriage and wanted all the details regarding this, proof of my education as well, fortunately i had all the documents with me, translated and apostilled into english. He left me waiting and i felt myself terrible and almost crying. Then he and my husband came back to me and i was allowed to go and collect my baggage and enter Holland.

My first impression of Holland was not that great!


The Dutch immigration staff seem as friendly as what we have here in the USA. Still, you made it and that's all that matters as it's not always important how the story starts, but how it ends.


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